{"id":7891,"date":"2020-10-01T15:15:08","date_gmt":"2020-10-01T22:15:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nettelhorst.com\/blog1\/?p=7891"},"modified":"2020-10-01T15:15:11","modified_gmt":"2020-10-01T22:15:11","slug":"suffering","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nettelhorst.com\/blog1\/2020\/10\/01\/suffering\/","title":{"rendered":"Suffering"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

It is clear from a biblical and experiential standpoint: suffering is real.  And what is also real is that we are righteous, and God does not hold our sins against us.  Thus: it is not the case that there are no good people.  We have been made good in Christ.  And it is not the case that suffering is the result of us doing bad things: that is, it is simply not the case that bad things happen to bad people and good things to good people. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

A woman I know had a stillborn baby.  At the hospital, my wife and the woman\u2019s mother were having lunch and the mother said \u201cyou know, good things happen to good people and bad things to bad people.\u201d  And my wife was aghast and asked, \u201cwhat bad thing did your daughter do that would cost the life of her baby?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That simply isn\u2019t the answer to the question of suffering.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

God is clear: it doesn\u2019t work that way.  Look at the passage from Luke 13:1-5:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. \u00a0<\/sup>Jesus answered, \u201cDo you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? \u00a0<\/sup>I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. \u00a0<\/sup>Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them\u2014do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? \u00a0<\/sup>I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.\u201d \u00a0<\/sup>(Luke 13:1-5)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The same sense, same attitude, same truth as we see in John 9:1-3:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. \u00a0<\/sup>His disciples asked him, \u201cRabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00a0<\/sup>\u201cNeither this man nor his parents sinned,\u201d said Jesus, \u201cbut this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What does suffering tell us about God?  One thing is very clear: it is not because of our sin.  Jesus suffered for that. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

What does suffering tell us about God?\u00a0 We learn that God loves us: he tells us he does and he shows us he does.\u00a0 God suffered for us.\u00a0On a Roman cross.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We learn that suffering is part of the universe that God has put us into.  Suffering does not exclude our existence. So if our existence is compatible with suffering, why would we imagine God\u2019s existence isn\u2019t?  One very obvious thing we need to remember about suffering: God himself suffers.  We don\u2019t suffer it alone. He suffers with us.  He really does know our pain.  Suffering is as much a problem for God as it is for us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

If God loves us, if God is good, if God is powerful, why do the righteous suffer?  Well, if God loves himself, if God is good, and if God is powerful, why does HE suffer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Suffering is not incompatible with our existence.  It is part of our existence. Likewise, suffering is not incompatible with God\u2019s existence.  It is part of his existence.<\/p>\n

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