{"id":2623,"date":"2012-11-03T00:05:03","date_gmt":"2012-11-03T07:05:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nettelhorst.com\/blog1\/?p=2623"},"modified":"2012-11-03T00:25:12","modified_gmt":"2012-11-03T07:25:12","slug":"time-loops-and-the-omnipresence-of-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nettelhorst.com\/blog1\/2012\/11\/03\/time-loops-and-the-omnipresence-of-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Time Loops and the Omnipresence of God"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\tIf you take a course in theology, sooner or later you come to the listing of the divine attributes.  God is love, God is just, God is omnipotent, God is omniscient and God is omnipresent, among others.  I want to pick on the last one in my brief list.  Omnipresence, the idea that God is everywhere&#8211;that no matter where you happen to be, there is God.<\/p>\n<p>One thing that most theologians wouldn&#8217;t ever think to wonder about is the mechanism of the divine attributes. That is, <em>how<\/em> does God do it?  For instance, how does this omnipresence thing even work?  How can anyone or anything be in more than one place at the same time?  You could invoke magic, I suppose, but that seems to contradict the nature of the universe that God created.  I tend to think that the laws of physics reflect the nature of God just as much as the laws in something like the Ten Commandments do.  <\/p>\n<p>So, how could someone be omnipresent?  Being a science fiction fan and writer, an obvious possibility entered my head.  <\/p>\n<p>Time travel.  <\/p>\n<p>If you were immortal&#8211;as God is said to be&#8211;and if you were able to travel freely in time, then omnipresence is a piece of cake.  You could devote a hundred percent attention to every detail of every individual\u2019s life that ever lived or would ever live and not even break a sweat.  If you got bored counting every hair on someone&#8217;s head, you could always take a vacation for a thousand years or two and then circle back to the same spot and moment that you left off.  With a time machine, you have all the time in the world.<\/p>\n<p>\tThis also has implications for omniscience&#8211;the attribute of God which means that he knows everything.  Again, if you can go everywhere at all moments in time, you could learn everything!  Your future self, having been and searched everywhere, would be all knowing, and yet, at any given point, any moment in time, you would also be learning that information for the first time.  Perhaps it explains what we see in Genesis 18, when God says he\u2019s going to go to Sodom and Gomorrah to see if things are as bad there as he\u2019s been told.  We just happen see Him in Genesis 18 going off to gather the information for the first time, from our perspective, though from the persepective of eternity, from God&#8217;s ultimate perspective it is considerably different: he already made that trip and he already knows.  Perhaps this is why God is also called the &#8220;Alpha and Omega&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;the beginning and the end.&#8221;  He&#8217;s forever learning and forever all knowing.<\/p>\n<p>\tRev. 13:8 indicates that Jesus has been crucified since the creation of the world, yet from our perspective, the crucifiction happened on one spring afternoon in the fourth decade of the common era.<\/p>\n<p> The God at the end of time, also free to move anywhere, already knows, sees and has done everything.  Yet the <em>how<\/em> of that achievement was by moving in endless loops through his creation.  Omnipresence is preserved and explained &#8212; that is we can see, at least to some extent, the how of it &#8212; the mechanism.  And it explains the confusing and troubling passages where we see God asking for information, or traveling to check something out.  It may even explain the places where God \u201crepents\u201d, or seemingly changes his mind.<\/p>\n<p>\tAnd as if I haven&#8217;t already verged on heresy, let me push a little further. Does this sort of eternal looping have anything to say about how we comprehend the Trinity?  One can picture a single deity, thanks to time loops, in more than one place at the same moment of time, and even interacting with the various versions of himself.  Yet, quite obviously, there is still only one God.<\/p>\n<div class='kindleWidget kindleLight' ><img src=\"https:\/\/nettelhorst.com\/blog1\/wp-content\/plugins\/send-to-kindle\/media\/white-15.png\" \/><span>Send to Kindle<\/span><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you take a course in theology, sooner or later you come to the listing of the divine attributes. 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